Objections to Apostles Today (Part 1)

by Scott

I am now posting my twelfth article on this larger series in regards to the ministry gifts listed in Ephesians 4:11-13, though I am mainly focusing in on apostles. You can click here to start at the first article and read through the series if you so desire.

And I suppose that there are quite a few more to come. This is a delicate topic, one with lots of misunderstandings, one with lots of baggage, one with lots of abuses. And, so, I feel the need to slowly walk through some things, slowly work some things out.

Sure, I could have posted a handful of articles and get on with other stuff. But I wanted to take the time to really consider things both biblically and theologically. I don’t mean to split the two, but when I refer to things theological, I am more referring to the conclusions that we come to from our reading and study of Scripture. It’s not always as simple as reading black ink on white paper. We read it through a lens, me included. And so I am trying to faithfully look at various portions of Scripture pertinent to the topic at hand, as well as the theological conclusions of such.

Hence, I’m on my twelfth article so far and plan to put out a handful or so more.

With regards to apostles, I said I would address the issues in this order:

  1. Apostles in New Testament Scripture.
  2. Objections to the existence of apostles today.
  3. What an apostle actually is.

So far, I have finished off the first point – looking at apostles in the New Testament. Whereas, when many people think of apostles, they think of the twelve, or possibly the twelve and Paul, Scripture actually lets us know there were a few other apostles at work in those early years following Christ’s resurrection, ascension and the outpouring of the Spirit of God.

We can definitely confirm that both Barnabas and James were apostles, but I believe there were others alive and well in those early decades – people like Apollos, Silas, Timothy, Titus, Epaphroditus, and probably a few others. It’s not so much that the word ‘apostle’ shows up next to their names (although it does in some cases). Rather, these people functioned in an apostolic ministry, what it meant practically and actually meant to be an apostle.

If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and squawks like a duck, it seems that it’s a duck. And those people mentioned above definitely lived and walked out the ministry of an apostle.

No, they didn’t write Scripture (though Apollos has sometimes been connected with the letter to the Hebrews). But they functioned very much like the twelve and Paul – helping found, establish, build, train and equip the early church to be faithful to Christ and the gospel. I’ll share more of what it means to be an apostle later, though I am hitting on it here and there. But you can read my two articles about apostles in the New Testament by clicking here and here.

But, the second focus is to move on and look at the objections to apostles today. I believe there are four major objections to the notion that apostles exist today (or post-first century). I shall spend some time over a few articles addressing these objections below:

  • Apostles are Scripture writers and we are not to add to Scripture, thus apostles are no longer existing.
  • One of the requirements of being an apostle is that the person had a post-resurrection appearance of Jesus Christ. But Jesus no longer makes such appearances, since Paul was the last to receive such. So there can no longer be apostles. Connected to this is the argument that Jesus specifically (i.e. physically) choose his apostles, but that can no longer happen since he is physically seated at the Father’s right hand.
  • Apostles are foundation layers (see Ephesians 2:20 ) and a foundation only needs to be laid once. Since the apostles did this in the first century, with that foundation being faithfully recorded in the New Testament Scriptures, we no longer need apostles.
  • Apostles are the only ones who performed signs and wonders, with these being the main attestation to their message (especially with the New Testament Scripture not being finalised and canonised). Since these specific signs, wonders, miracles, etc, are no longer performed today, we can easily ascertain that apostles no longer exist today.

There are probably other arguments. But I believe those mentioned above are the four main objections to the idea that apostles (and even prophets) were to no longer exist following the death of John, the apostle, and with the completion of what is now our New Testament canon of Scripture.

I’ll go ahead and make a practical note: It’s much easier to teach that apostles no longer exist. Much, much easier. Even for someone like a Wayne Grudem, who believes all the gifts of the Spirit are still active today, he has created a guard against the idea that apostles exist today, a very tight guard I might add. And I believe it’s with a noble heart – to honour God, to respect His word in the Scripture, and to protect against bad teaching. I mean, we’ve got a lot of abuse from cults and sects and from some Pentecostal and charismatic groups.

But, as I always say, and as some might tire of me saying: I do not believe misuse and abuse should lead us to not utilising that which is truth. Rather, it should all the more challenge us to be faithful in accordance with the teaching of Scripture and the wisdom of God given to His people.

It’s just like I would never argue that we keep a copy of Scripture away from the ‘untrained’ just because heresy and wrong understanding could come about. It’s tempting, and it was what the Roman Catholic church argued with Martin Luther. But we could never imagine succumbing to that temptation to keep the Scriptures out of people’s hands. We need it. It is bread for the soul, and so much more!

So, being a proponent for apostles today carries its difficulties. I don’t believe it carries it’s Scriptural difficulties, but rather practical difficulties. I find a lot of people claiming to be an apostle, but they look nothing like the great apostle, Jesus. Such has absolutely ruined anybody being open to the present-day charismata activity of the Spirit, much less that apostles might exist. But I also have relationships with a handful of people that I believe truly walk out an apostolic ministry after the pattern of Christ and those first apostles. I’m glad Jesus has brought me into such relationships. It keeps me refreshed when I turn on the tv or click on someone’s website and can only shake my head.

But let’s move on, shall we…

The first objection to consider is the common mistake that apostle = Scripture-writer.

One of the first things that can come to a person’s mind when we state that apostles still exist is that this means we are claiming that we can still add to Scripture. Why? Well, out of that first group of apostles, one of the significant roles that they and their associates had was the recording of the God-breathed New Testament Scriptures. And, for this, we are indebted.

Yet, I believe such thinking is not built from a solid theological understanding of the nature of the apostolic ministry. For starters, most apostles did not write Scripture. Matter of fact, there were only five writers of the New Testament that were apostles – Matthew, John, Paul, Peter and James (though James was not one of the ‘twelve plus Paul’). That means we are missing writings from quite a few of the ‘twelve apostles of the Lamb’ (Revelation 21:14).

Also, we must consider that there were other writers of the New Testament that were not apostles – John Mark, Luke, Jude and possibly the writer of Hebrews (though if Barnabas and/or Apollos wrote it, then an apostle had their hand in it).

The argument then comes that those three or four other writers were very closely associated with the apostles, so they received their stories and teaching from those who were apostles. Not only that, but Jude finds his authority in being the physical brother of Jesus. Because they were closely linked with the apostles, and they would have received their information from them, they were ok to write Scripture.

But we must consider the reality that apostles are not first and foremost called to write Scripture. As I have pointed out, the word apostle means ‘sent one’. All apostles were first and foremost sent with a mission to accomplish. They were each sent out to accomplish it, and thus, they were apostles. The main part of that mission was that they were founding, establishing, building up, strengthening, supporting and teaching the church, the people who were responding to the gospel of the kingdom. And this included people like Apollos, Timothy, Titus and a handful of others.

Sure, those like Paul and Peter and John would have had the greater apostolic measure. I don’t deny such. But what made Paul, Peter and John, or Barnabas, Apollos and James, apostles was that they were sent out to equip and train the early church. Many of them had a hand in Scripture writing, and I don’t want to add that on as a little appendix. Again, we are indebted to these men who penned the word of God as recorded in Scripture. But we must not intrinsically equate apostolic ministry with Scripture-writing.

Apostle means ‘sent one’. It does not mean ‘New Testament writer’.

What we also don’t usually realise is that not all of God’s revelation was recorded in Scripture. It was never planned that way. Thus, people could still speak forth revelation from God, revelation that was definitely worth paying attention to and reflecting upon, but it still never found its way into the inscriptured New Testament.

This is easy to see in such places as:

  • 1 Corinthians 14:26 – Paul lets the Corinthian believers know that, when they gather together, each one has something to bring. One of those things – revelation!
  • 1 Timothy 1:18 – Paul reminds Timothy of the prophecies made about him. But here is the interesting thing: Paul tells him that, by them (the prophecies), Timothy can wage good warfare, hold to the faith and a good conscience. Pretty important, maybe even authoritative and revelatory words from God, that never made it into Scripture.

There are other examples: think about Agabus. We only read of two of his prophetic utterances in Acts (11:27-30 and 21:10-14, and lest we think this last case is a ‘wrong’ prophecy from Agabus, as Grudem asserts, we shall consider the words in some article about prophets). I’m pretty certain he was prophesying a lot more than those two times, speaking forth the word of God, since he was recognised as a prophet. And how many prophets of the Old Testament were used, but never penned a word – Elijah, Elisha, Nathan, etc. Some of their words were recorded, but not everything.

So I believe we need to really reconsider our understanding of what it means to be an apostle and that it is not simply connecting such a role to the writing of New Testament Scripture (as well as seeing prophets as those who were mainly called to write Old Testament Scripture). That is not the case. It never has been.

Again, I do not want to downplay the role of Scripture. I wish I could address all issues with Scripture, but suffice it to say, I believe it is what we call it – a canon, meaning a measuring stick for our faith and practise of it. Some of those first apostles had a major role in recording the apostolic teaching and testimony. I love it! But that took up only a small percentage of their apostolic ministry. They had other things to get on with in laying a foundation in faithfulness to Christ and the gospel.

God has always been communicating revelation outside of Scripture and such revelation, if it is truly revelation, can be considered authoritative. It doesn’t mean we write 4 John or 3 Thessalonians or 1 Brussels. It simply means that, as people speak forth revelation (or what they claim as revelation), we learn to weigh it against Scripture, keep it before the leaders we are connected to, keep it before the wider body we are in relationship with, and pray for discernment.

It doesn’t make it easy. But it makes us move towards becoming the men and women God desires His body to be – hearers of His word and responders to His word.

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4 responses to “Objections to Apostles Today (Part 1)

  1. Pioneering Pilgrim

    YOU STATE:
    We can definitely confirm that both Barnabas and James were apostles, but I believe there were others alive and well in those early decades – people like Apollos, Silas, Timothy, Titus, Epaphroditus, and probably a few others. It’s not so much that the word ‘apostle’ shows up next to their names (although it does in some cases). Rather, these people functioned in an apostolic ministry, what it meant practically and actually meant to be an apostle.

    With respect you are incorrect.
    WHAT DOES THE BIBLE STATE ABOUT THE CRITERIA FOR APOSTLES?
    (1) They had to have been appointed by JESUS himself in PERSON.
    (2) They had to have seen the RISEN Lord
    The GREEK WORD used to translate “APOSTLE” in the N.T. is:
    APOSTOLLOS which means “MESSENGER”
    BUT the HEBREW WORD for APOSTLE is SHALIACH
    A SHALIACH is the appointed emissary of someone – designated with SPECIFIC POWER and AUTHORITY.
    The nearest “equivalent” we have in the UK legal system is the appointment of a POWER of ATTORNEY.
    A person appointed with a strict POWER of ATTORNEY cannot pass on the delegated AUTHORITY to someone else. The AUTHORITY ends in one of 2 ways: (1) when the designated period ends – set by the emissary – the appointor
    and (2) on the DEATH of the appointee.
    The Lord Jesus Christ appointed 11 + 1 = 12 Apostles.
    Judas Iscariot was one of the 12 disciples.
    He did NOT see the RISEN CHRIST.
    He was NEVER appointed as a SHALIACH – APOSTLE
    He was sent out as a messenger but NOT as an Apostle.
    Only the RISEN CHRIST could appoint APOSTLES (SHALIACH office)
    Matthias was NEVER appointed by the LORD
    He was chosen by LOT to complete the number 12
    12 TRIBES Old Covenant
    12 APOSTLES New Covenant.
    The Bible (Acts chapter 1) says he was “numbered with the 11.
    Although they said let another take HIS (Judas’) place or office.
    Matthias was NOT appointed by the Lord Jesus.
    Judas NEVER received the office of Apostle.
    Jesus only “breathed” on the 11
    Judas was away – betraying the Lord.
    Matthias could NOT take the office that “never was” !!!!
    Please REFER to Revelation 21:14
    The wall of the city had 12 foundations,
    and on them were the names of the 12 apostles of the Lamb.
    Please NOTE – ONLY 12 (11 + 1)
    The original 11 + PAUL
    Paul saw the RISEN CHRIST and was appointed by Him as
    APOSTLE to the GENTILES
    The Apostolic Office – SHALIACH – ceased to exist when the last Apostle died – believed to be John the brother of James who was killed by Herod.
    James the brother of Jesus and author of an Epistle was not an Apostle.
    In the Epistle he describes himself as a SERVANT.
    Likewise for all the others you care to mention.
    There were ONLY 12 Apostles (11+1)
    There were ONLY 12 Tribes
    The Church is BUILT on the FOUNDATION of these 12 Apostles.
    The Lord Jesus Christ is the CHIEF CORNERSTONE.
    Jesus as KING of KINGS also received the TITLES of APOSTLE and HIGH PRIEST at HIS CORONATION (Reference HEBREWS).
    I trust you will NOW check the FACTS and stop promoting the idea that the Apostle Office can be reinstated. Alan Hirsch has been promoting the supposed revival for a decade in Australia & the USA.
    He is also misguided.
    The Lord Jesus Christ said: The TRUTH will set you FREE.
    The 12 Apostles fulfilled their MISSION.
    We await the return of the Lord
    Until then please READ the BIBLE and OBEY it – Acts 2:42
    NB The Apostles’ Teaching – The WORD of God – The Bible
    Grace be with you
    As for me, I am merely obeying and promoting the Biblical Truth
    The Pioneering Pilgrim

  2. Pioneering Pilgrim –

    Thank you for stopping by to comment.

    You said from the beginning in your comment that there were only 12 apostles. You need to re-read the New Testament again. There were clearly more than 12, including Paul. You are, yourself, not reading Scripture correctly.

    I would encourage you to read more of the articles here on apostles today to deal with the other objections.

    Thank you
    Scott

  3. Scott, Good work. These are excellent articles. We are of kindred spirits on these issues. I would love correspond with you on apostles. Could you send me your email address?
    Blessings,
    Phil Sasser

  4. Phil –

    If you go to my personal blog here – http://prodigalthought.net – you can find my email address on the About Me page.

    Thanks

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